As I have purchased some SPZ12-3 for another project for which they were replaced, it seems a waste not to do something with them.
From my copy of Bruce Rea-Taylors army lisst for the 1950's and 60's I can create the following.
1968 Panzer grenadier brigade. This is only good to the early 1970's when the Marder was introduced.
Brigade HQ
SPZ12-3 ICT
2 Battalions BHQ SPZ12-3 ICT
1 SPZ 52-3 120mm SP mortar
3 coy 4 SPZ12-3 ICT
1 Battalion BHQ 1 MBT
4 coy 4 MBT
MBT may be either Leopard 1 or M48A3
1 battalion 1 AOP
4 M109G (plain M109)
At Coy
2 JPZ Rackette
4 JPZ Kannone
Recce coy
2 SPZ 11-2
Engineer coy
1 AVLB (M48 or Leopard)
The reserve units are possibly more interesting, though I'm not sure if I'm brave enough to run a battalion of what are essentially STUG's in MSH. this list is good to the late 1970's
Brigade HQ Inf/Truck
3 Battlions BHQ in SPZ 12-3
1 120mm Mortar/truck
1 coy 3 SPZ 12-3 ICT (may swap for M113)
2 coy 3 inf/truck
1 Battalion BHQ SPZ 12-3
1coy 2JPZ rakette
3 coy 4 JPZ Kanone
1 battalion 1 AOP
4 105mm or 15mm 5 M114
Just for completeness I'll include the Panzer or Pz Gr divisional recon battalion.
BHQ SPZ11-2
2 Coy
5 SPZ 11-2
2 MBT
1 Coy
2 MBT
2 SPZ 11-2 ICT
1 SPZ 11-2 81mm Mortar
Showing posts with label MSH 1960's. Show all posts
Showing posts with label MSH 1960's. Show all posts
Friday, October 13, 2017
Thursday, September 21, 2017
Next options.
As always after a prolonged session of gaming one gets keen again and
starts looking for the next armies to build. While Luke was here we
went through my Czech collection to sort out what i needed to A)
complete the Czechs to his exacting standard and B) add the Poles as
well.
I've now found that I've lost the piece of paper somewhere. I've also been going through the Austrians to sort out bits I'm missing (85mm AT guns bits for HQ's etc) and painting up some bits for the West Germans in the late 960's, as I have a stack of SPZ 12-3APC's that I was going to use as Austrian APC's before H&R released their new range.
I also received a purchase the day after Luke left, a 1960's wheeled recce regiment for my Brits.
Saladins, Saracens and variations on the Ferret ( it did remind me that I should really get a Fox recce regiment for the Brit territorials). This has lead to my main problem which is: what base green did I use for my existing British army when I painted it 15 odd years ago. I expect that others are well organized and have these things written down in their modeling diary's. I on the other hand just tend to grab the paint off the shelf that looks about right, and I do carry a wide selection of greens.
I've now found that I've lost the piece of paper somewhere. I've also been going through the Austrians to sort out bits I'm missing (85mm AT guns bits for HQ's etc) and painting up some bits for the West Germans in the late 960's, as I have a stack of SPZ 12-3APC's that I was going to use as Austrian APC's before H&R released their new range.
I also received a purchase the day after Luke left, a 1960's wheeled recce regiment for my Brits.
Saladins, Saracens and variations on the Ferret ( it did remind me that I should really get a Fox recce regiment for the Brit territorials). This has lead to my main problem which is: what base green did I use for my existing British army when I painted it 15 odd years ago. I expect that others are well organized and have these things written down in their modeling diary's. I on the other hand just tend to grab the paint off the shelf that looks about right, and I do carry a wide selection of greens.
Wednesday, August 14, 2013
In between
Last week I scored from Trademe (the local E-bay) a copy of 'Modern Army lists and organisations for the 1950's and 60's' by Bruce Rea-Taylor.
I've always been intrigued by this period, with an interesting collection of cast off WW2 and more modern equipment. The lists are (in the large part) for 1958 and 1968. The 1958 lists tend to have a collection of left over WW2 equipment and 1st generation post war equipment. the 1968 lists are reasonably similar to the late 70's in terms of equipment.
What I did find interesting was that some of the NATO armies were a bit more interesting than there 1980's equivalent. The West Germans get Japanzer Kannone battalions, while the French get interesting mixtures of APC's and AMX13's. Everyone else seems to use Centurions The British must have made millions of the damn things.
I'll have to sit down in the next couple of weeks and create some army lists based on the information contained. One question to be determined will be the Command ratings. Should they be comparative with armies from the same time period (ie remarkably similar to today's ratings) or should they be scaled with the technology involved ie NATO 2 vs WARPAC 2 or even 3rd world for the lesser armies.
I've always been intrigued by this period, with an interesting collection of cast off WW2 and more modern equipment. The lists are (in the large part) for 1958 and 1968. The 1958 lists tend to have a collection of left over WW2 equipment and 1st generation post war equipment. the 1968 lists are reasonably similar to the late 70's in terms of equipment.
What I did find interesting was that some of the NATO armies were a bit more interesting than there 1980's equivalent. The West Germans get Japanzer Kannone battalions, while the French get interesting mixtures of APC's and AMX13's. Everyone else seems to use Centurions The British must have made millions of the damn things.
I'll have to sit down in the next couple of weeks and create some army lists based on the information contained. One question to be determined will be the Command ratings. Should they be comparative with armies from the same time period (ie remarkably similar to today's ratings) or should they be scaled with the technology involved ie NATO 2 vs WARPAC 2 or even 3rd world for the lesser armies.
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